tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5185876513552272723.post743784813260323645..comments2024-03-28T03:10:23.679-07:00Comments on Polemarch: Radetzky’s MarchThe Polemarchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10958736917525649927noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5185876513552272723.post-67960473195547528272016-11-21T05:11:59.632-08:002016-11-21T05:11:59.632-08:00Being a (near) monoglot, I can see that language i...Being a (near) monoglot, I can see that language is a great problem. I guess you have to be very good in a second language in order to be comfortable with the historiography of somewhere else. Translations don't quite cut it (as a reader of Latin translated into English, even my smattering of Latin can tell 'it isn't really saying that'.)<br /><br />There are also, I guess, implicit cultural frames which we apply as well. The Times did it to Radetzky, and I think we do it all the time to everything else. That is why we get a bit uncomfortable with, say, Vlad the Impaler. The Polemarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10958736917525649927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5185876513552272723.post-13641091261656218092016-11-21T05:08:38.875-08:002016-11-21T05:08:38.875-08:00I think that there is definitely a Anglo-centric v...I think that there is definitely a Anglo-centric viewpoint going on here, yes, and also a bit of 'well we know it will fail anyway'. The reasons the AH empire went down are a lot more complex than any single frame, as well, agreed. But whether we can cope with more than a few frames at a time seems a bit moot.The Polemarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10958736917525649927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5185876513552272723.post-82870279224305226482016-11-21T03:06:00.945-08:002016-11-21T03:06:00.945-08:00Thanks for another great post. It really does show...Thanks for another great post. It really does show that the chosen frame shapes our view of the past. This includes, as nundanket mentions, our national/cultural perspective. I'm not familiar with A-H historiography, but it may be that Radetzky is better known in German or Hungarian language historiography. I certainly know that figures seen as important in Scandinavian historiography are almost invisible in English historiography. Language and transmission are thus yet more different frames to consider.Ruaridhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13003128932063213463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5185876513552272723.post-2788629408102245122016-11-19T06:22:41.191-08:002016-11-19T06:22:41.191-08:00Fascinating post. Using Radetzky like this gives a...Fascinating post. Using Radetzky like this gives a great illustration of what framing does to our view of historical events and people.<br /><br />I suspect his obscurity has a lot to do with an Anglo-centric view. It would be interesting to get a perspective from inside the former A-H empire (I suspect there are many many different ones).<br /><br />What's seen as the inevitable collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire is itself dependent on your frame. The Hapsburg realm had weathered many other cataclysms before and survived. It had seen off or survived the Ottomans, Protestantism, Louis XIV, Charles Albert and Frederick 'the Great', Napoleon, the 1848 Revolutions. Nationalism could have been another in this long list.nundankethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12895608927860103442noreply@blogger.com